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Why Don’t Russian Men Marry Russian Women?

Why Don’t Russian Men Marry Russian Women?

Astonishing, isn’t it. There are thousands of beautiful Russian Women on the Internet. And all of them seemingly abandoned, left on the shelf.

The explanation is largely cultural. Most of us are attracted to Russian Women by their sexy, foreign accent. But if you already speak Russian, as most Russian Men do, the girls don’t sound at all foreign or sexy.

Another limiting factor is that the kind of women Russian Men date are usually already married to someone else.

Also, we must consider Russian demographics. There are far more men in Russia than women. I know this statistic is usually presented the other way around, but it is erroneous.

You will notice that in any sporting contests, - like the Olympic shot-put or weight-lifting - the Russian Women’s team regularly fails sex tests. It is also quite obvious to any casual traveller in Russia that all the women you see mending roads and driving trains are in fact men.

It is a complex subject and I will return to it later.

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5,086 comments to Why Don’t Russian Men Marry Russian Women?

  • Masha's Boyfriend

    Masha is a big lier! She doesn’t work instead of that she sits on forums all day. She is a very selfish Russian bitch and I agree with everyone! Russian women are gold diggers. She always asks me for some cash or my credit card.

  • Daniel

    Rayan, I have my own demons in my marriage. And I know what they are. They are not secret.

    Mind you, after Zhenya’s last trip to Ukraine she came back with an STD. We both had a full blood test for something and doctor said ‘odd, wife has this STD, but you, Daniel dont have’

    I just assume it was some old STD from before me… but why dont I have. I just believe my wife. What she does to me is very out in the open. She has two townhouses I paid for subdivision and rennovation. And she has like 50,000 of designer clothes in the closet and about 50,000 of jewellery.

    I just have a 50,000 debt.

    She cant afford a boyfriend.

    Like I said. I have my own demons.

    Mate, your demons are much worse. I am really sorry. I am really sorry. I hope 100 Russian women come here and say ‘Rayan, it is really bad luck and Russian women are not like that’.

    But they will come here and say ‘you picked her, it is your fault’. ‘you did not control her, it is your fault’.

    Sorry, mate. That is the problem I have with Russian women. They seem to take no repsonsbility for their actions and they do what they want.

    Maybe I am wrong.

    My juice story is like nothing compared to you. Sorry mate. Hang in there for the boys.

  • Rayan

    Thank you for your words Daniel that’s life and that’s Ukrainian woman. when you married your wife you didn’t do blood test? if you did and then when she went to Ukraine last time she got the STD this means and this means she was cheating on you because you don’t have the STD that say much. you never know what your wife is planning that’s all Ukrainian woman like this.

  • Daniel

    Rafael, the Russian women here will come on and say

    1) if you are retired, how can you expect to marry a beautiful Ukraine girl; you obviously knew what was to happen; so why complain

    2) you should know that Ukraine girls from a city will NOT be happy unless they are in the main street in a big, glizty city

    So, pretty much, Rafael, you must have known what would happen. So why do you complain. And you even got sex. So even if you lose out financially you probably ended up better off

    With these types of Russian/Ukraine women there is no explaining anything.

    My wife’s next door neighbor from Odessa married a man in Canberra, Australia. Then she immediately went back to Odessa. She never came back. But her interpreter did contact ME to confirm it is is true that in Australia the divorced wife gets half? I said ‘what!!!!!!!!!’.

    In any case the Odessa girl who fled back did send a Russian lawyers letter to the man in Canberra demading HALF his assests. That would have netted Oksana about 700,000.

    Funny, but the Canberra man did not send 700,000 to Odessa.

    And when I talked with Oksana just at Christmas on Skpe she actually - five years later - told us ‘I was such a shit to him’.

    So, Rafael, I can only say act honorably and morally. You always have that. And dont yell ever. They dont like that at all.

  • Rafael

    Mine is a Horror story that begin in 2010 by Wroting to Tatyana Dyomina Thru
    Anastasiaweb.com. I wrote this woman for several months before making the trip to Nikolaev ,Ukraine to
    see her. Tatyana was so pleasant to be around so warm and caring that I fell in love with her.
    I arrived in Nikolaev in October 2010,We were Married December 3rd and I stayed in
    the Ukraine with her untill we couls returen together in May of 2010.
    I am retired military and not a particularly rich man, I used my life savings for this trip an amount of 30,000
    dollars. When Tatyana and I returned to America the trouble started as soon as we got home.
    I have a small but lovely brand new threebedroom home in Idaho. Tatyana wanted an apartment in the city preferably on Mainstreet.
    I introduced Tatyana to our Russian community here thru various Russian speaking churchs
    in our area, So she would have Russian speaking friends to ease any homesickness she might feel.
    I purchased several Russian speaking News and Entertainment channels off the Satelite T.V. provider. Nothing helped.
    Tatyana was not happy with America , my home and started focusing her attention on English classes and obtaining her drivers liscense.
    She Told me the people at her Russian speaking church were helping her to Obtain that drivers liscense
    and advising her to start her own bank account.She told me they were advising her on how to be happy in America.
    The advise they gave Tatyana was to find a good Russian boy to marry and Steal everything from her husband she could get her hands on.
    The church advised Tatyana the only way she could stay in America and possibly gain
    material and monetary support from her husband was to file Domestic Battery
    charges.The INS will allow abused foreign wives to stay in America where a divorce
    before 2yrs is an automatic false marraige and return to Ukraine.What Follows is
    the letter prepared by attorney for the INS office located in Boise, Idaho.

    Tetyana **** who is still on two year green card.
    Tatyana Divorced her husband after 18 months of Marraige to immediately Live with
    Her Russian Speaking Boyfriend. Tetyana was engaged to this boyfriend before divorce
    papers had been filed. All charges of domestic battery against her Husband were dropped.
    (Material Witness) Natasha Mote of long beach California has direct confidence of
    Tetyana **** and has heard all of this thru Tetyana,s own lips. Life long friend
    of Tetyana for over 22 years.Tetyana and Natasha grew up together in Nikolaev,
    Ukraine .Phone number in Long Beach ****.She will not want to testify
    against her friend and has passed all information along to Tetyana’s husband via
    phone conversations. Natasha’s husband has money and has already indicated if
    Natasha is asked to Testify he would send her home to Ukraine to visit her family till this case blows over.
    Tetyana entered into a false Marraige December 3rd 2005, convincing her husband she
    loved him but only wanting a visa to the United States. After her arrival in the
    U.S. in May of 2010 she immediately set about finding contacts with the large
    Russian Speaking community in Ada and Canyon Counties thru Russian Speaking Churches
    in Meridian and the other Russian speaking people at the Walmart store where she
    worked to aide her in gainning a divorce that would allow her to stay in the U.S.
    Tetyana met Irena Rayburn in October 2010, while working at Walmart. Tetyana and her
    husband attended several dinners and holidays at Irena,s house where Tetyana met the
    man she now lives with and plans to marry as soon as her divorce is final.Tetyana
    would see this man on the sly as often as possible back as far as January of 2011.
    When the marraige seemed to Tetyana to be nearing divorce, Irena Rayburn, The Fiance
    and Tetyana came up with a plan. Irena has been thru several divorces in America and
    she and Tetyana both knew that divorce before two years is considered a false
    marraige by immigration and the girl would be deported. They also knew that a charge
    of domestic battery would allow Tetyana to stay in America and attempt to take
    everything the husband owned in the divorce setting them up for a nice life in
    America.The plan was to waite untill Tetyana got her secound green card in May of 2010.
    When the husband confronted Tetyana concerning her affair with this man and stated
    his intention to get a divorce from Tetyana in June of 2010, Tetyana immediately put
    Their plan into action. She called the Police and had the husband arrested on a false battery charge.
    While the husband was forced to stay away from his home under a no-contact order,
    Tetyana and her now fiance (engaged to marry before the divorce papers were filed)
    systematically emptied the husbands house of everything of value and destroy that
    which they did not take against the instructions of the divorce papers filed in
    June, before the husband could regain possesion of his house.
    The possesions gained were spread out amongst the three conspirators.
    This is a case of a Russian Speaking Immigrant planning the emotional and financial
    destruction of an American for personal gain thru false marraige,false battery charges , theft and vandalism.

  • sammy

    Hello … I married a woman from Ukraine Dec, 2010. To make a long story
    short, I believe the marriage is a fraud and that she did so to get her green card.
    I can list chapter and verse what she has put me through. Bottom line
    …she has taken everything she can from me. I am virtually broke. I filed
    for divorce last May 24th and got to court Dec 13th. She said she would do it
    easy… but that as well is a lie. She is still trying to get more … which I don’t have.

    I was postponed until Jan 24th so that I could get a lawyer/ Everywhere I
    turned, I was denied. I call USCIS and lodged a complaint that the marriage is
    a fraud and why … they said they would investigate but have heard nothing
    yet. I have until Feb 21st to go back to court with a lawyer. She got one thru
    Legal Services of Westchester-Putnam Counties so they turned me away. I
    am told they should not have done so, that they are ONLY a referral service.
    And it seems HER lawyer will come after me for fees even though she is pro-bono to her.

  • Max

    I married **** in 2011 after we courted on phone for two months and she came to visit. We married quickly.

    **** tried to commit suicide the third month of our marriage despite having no real reason other than to try and manipulate me. Mind you she is drop dead gorgeous. I had a son from a prior marriage and she began to treat him like a nanny. I said “fake it until you feel it or we divorce”. She faked it and I thought she felt it.

    She immediately started using the system to have a baby. She never asked me. At a point she became so blindingly selfish and rude to my son that I told her baby doctor no more attempts until my wife got help. The fact is she didn’t want help.

    She wanted a baby and to leave me. I thought this could be true as she would start arguments that really only she would have and blame me for anything that bothered her, only to use the word “divorce” all the time.

    Eventually she calmed down for a year. I agreed to the baby. The day he was born she said, “I cannot love your son anymore.”

    Imagine the horror that a boy that grew up and thought he had a mother only to have her stop loving him. Later she said in bed one night, “I wish I only had one son”.

    Meanwhile we’ve been married 6 years now and I had spent in excess of 100,000.00 on her behalf over the years. From two time shares, to extended warrantees on her car, to trip abroad to see her family in Ukraine. I was the perfect husband. When her Russian friend here in the US refused to throw her baby shower, I did. So as I spent, she saved.

    After our son (my second son) was a year old she filed a bogus Protection From Abuse order in Delaware on me. I was out of my home where my business operated, my employee couldn’t go to work and my first son couldn’t go home either as she wanted nothing to do with him. I had to live with my parents for four months while I begged for personal belongings from my home. After four months I flipped the PFA as the courts learned the truth about her. Then I promptly began the process of vacating my PFA so we could get back to
    trying to heal the family. I did it for the children.

    During this next year I get anonymous faxes and text messages from her place of work JP Morgan Bank warning of her having an affair and a trip she moved up by two week coincided with a co-workers trip abroad too.

    Worse yet I couldn’t catch her because I confronted her too soon. Four months later she filed for divorce and went straight back to her plan of taking our son and living alone with him. If you’ve seen the movie Loverboy where the mother wants just a child and NOTHING else in life, this is **** ****. Eventually we wound up back in court where she gamed the legal system over and over even filing a PFA against my 75 year old parents in an effort to keep them away from their three year old grandchild for the next year. They were found not guilty and the case was dismissed on it’s merits and she is still clawing for the boy by lying to church congregations about me, and our history. She did agree in cross PFA’s with myself in December of 2011 to yield custody of our son to me and the house too. However since then she swears she is broke and can’t pay child support while buying $6,000.00 fur coats in New York and $1,200.00 foam mattresses among other luxury items.

    I found out only two weeks before she filed for divorce she hyphenated her name three years prior without telling me.

    My point is this. Duplicity can be a long term road a scammer will travel to get what they want. I was told by her that she loved me and she divorced her last husband because he was in the Russian mob. She has a bullet wound in her right arm to make that case. But I really don’t even know if she has a criminal record in Ukraine of if she is still married.

    Now she is trying to get permission to take our 3 year old son to Ukraine for a “visit” and I’m fearful I may never see my son again.

    Good luck in who you meet and better luck in who you decide to trust. I had warning signs all throughout but I am an American man with family values. My parents have been married over 50 years, I wanted that same dream to come true and fought for it only to find that a Russian woman that wants to scam you, will get you in the end. She has sworn me as a mortal enemy and I must say I’m really afraid of her.

  • Aydin

    I met my Russian Wife through an internet web site around 2.5 years ago. We traded a lot of emails and after some time I started to phone her … Her English was perfect, she was very intelligent and we had great communication.

    I invited her to the UK and arranged a week abroad to allow us to get to know each other better and relax in good surroundings.

    I have to say I was impressed with almost everything about this woman and after further visits to the UK (which I paid for) she explained that the only way to actually leave Russia permanently was through marriage. I eventually asked her to marry me. She accepted and she moved to the UK .

    At first all was well ….Then … the complaints started and the demands grew. Nothing was good enough, everything was wrong, I couldn’t do anything right. The personality change within just a few months after the wedding was unbelievable. She offered no communication or cooperation to resolve issues, her complaints just kept on coming.

    I mentioned Divorce on a number of occasions in the hope that it may jolt her into resolving problems rather than ignoring them but the word “Divorce” had an adverse effect as the complaints intensified and the problems in our marriage reached another level.

    My life had become a mess, I couldn’t stand the atmosphere any longer and I called to see a solicitor for advice then onto the local Court to collect Divorce papers in the hope that once she realised that I was serious she may start to communicate and make some attempt to help me to sort out our lives and save our marriage. Nothing happened, no reaction, no response …nothing!

    I contacted the UK home office for guidance and advice on the situation as her visa had little time to run on the initial 2 years marriage visa and was instructed that I could not sponsor her for the renewal of her visa to gain “indefinite leave to remain “ visa status unless (a) the marriage was subsisting (b) we intended to live together indefinitely as man and wife. I was warned that if I didn’t comply with the immigration rules and signed her visa application I would then be committing a criminal act and could face very serious charges with possible imprisonment as a penalty.

    Friends were now coming forward claiming that she had told them that the only reason she came to the UK was to prevent the Russian Army from conscripting her son and to provide him with a better education in the UK . I didn’t enter into the equation for her wanting to come to the UK at all.

    I felt very cheated, disappointed and used. I couldn’t believe that the detraction on my life had become so severe and painful when I should have been the happiest man in the world having found what I originally believed to be the most fantastic woman I had ever known.

    I had no alternative but to file for divorce on grounds of unreasonable behaviour and I filed the papers with the Court accordingly.

    Within a few days of the Court Bailiff serving the divorce papers on my wife I was arrested by the Police on allegations of domestic violence! I was thrown in a cell, detained overnight, released on Bail the following morning and told to go home. I dare not go home for fear that my wife may add even more false charges to the 3 she had already alleged.

    The charges she made are false and without evidence of any assault, no medical proof ….nothing! But as soon as allegations are made the Police provide the RW with a paper stating they had made an arrest then she can self petition the Home Office for a permanent UK Visa.

    I have pleaded not guilty to all the allegations in the local court but the “domestic violence industry“has now jumped on the band wagon and wont let go. So now I have to go to high court and face a full jury and if found guilty of a crime I didn’t commit I could face a terrible penalty and have to pay all costs, lose my job, self respect and financial ruin.

    By the time this reaches a conclusion it will be almost a year of stress for me yet it appears to Russian Women that no length or suffering is too great to get a UK visa they simply see the Legal Loophole as a means to an end to get a visa rather than go back to Russia .

    I am amazed that it is so easy to get information on “What to do if your husband doesn’t sign your visa” which are openly illustrated on the internet including the British Home Office website. They virtually tell them what to do to get the visa to stay in the UK .

    Be warned, that despite how beautiful these women are, and how attentive and good natured they seem. The visa is paramount in their mind and once they have used you to get it, they will either move on amicably or file for divorce taking as much of your estate as possible with them! A husband may deny them the visa through a divorce within the initial 2 years of the marriage but do so at your peril!!

    I have read stories very similar to my own from people in Australia and America, I just wish to God that I had seen them before I married, and maybe I wouldn’t be in this terrible situation now.

  • Daniel

    The angry fake dud(ette) is just trying to ruin the forum by cutting and pasting stuff.

    In this way they stop real discussion and points.

  • Aydin

    this is my true story with my ex wife I’m not angry or fake I’m talking about this because i want to know what others think and what can i do next time to not fall in this place again.

  • Daniel

    Oh sorry, Aydin.

    So what are you thinking you should do next?

    How will you know what is right and wrong in future - when you are trying to find romance again?

  • Aydin

    I’m looking now that’s why i came here i want advice if i just try another Russian or Ukrainian woman or meet from other place I’m happen for good advice so this doesn’t happen to me again

  • Daniel

    When will all this court stuff be finished? You need to wait for that dont you? What will you do about the court?

  • Aydin

    next week everything will be finished with court. i just want some advice on what should i do after i finish. because i don;t want to be in the same situation again i had enough problems.

  • Daniel

    So next week you are having a jury trial as an accused in the High Court? If you lose, then you will go to jail and lose your job and all your money.

    And you are asking now about your next Russian woman?

  • Aydin

    i will not lose there was a per trial and the judge told me that i will win the case but next week i have to go for it to go on record

  • Daniel

    I am confused if you are having a jury trial, how the judge can tell you one week before the jury trial that you will win. What did your lawyer say about that!

  • Aydin

    because I’m lucky one of my family members know the judge and he spoke to him to help me. that’s why I’m here for advice

  • Aydin

    my lawyer told me that everything will be good just to go next week for the record that my name will be clean and clear.

  • Daniel

    Wow. That is good luck for you. I dont know what advice anyone here can give. If you have family members that speak to High Court judges to pre-determine the outcome of jury trials, then you have some really good family helpers.

    So, since that High Court, jury case, where you may go to jail and lose all your money and job is no problem becasue you family has influenced the judge is not a problem anymore, then what advice are you seeking.

    Sorry, I was not sure. I was very concerned about your jail!

  • Daniel

    Are there children at all involved. It is best to know that before thinking was is best.

  • Aydin

    i understand and i am very thankful for my family help if it was not for them i would be in jail. i was looking for advice if someone had same situation or know more about this. i want to look for a new woman but i don’t know what should i do is there a good place to meet good woman not the once who want only visa. i don’t if i should try Ukraine after this is Russia the woman better or i should try to find another country any suggestions advice would be good.

    i understand you going true difficult times also i wish things would change for you. i was reading your story

  • Aydin

    no there is no children that didn’t happen she didn’t want to ruining her body she said and she said in future. and look how she acted and lie and plan this all along for a UK visa

  • Daniel

    Thanks for your kind words Aydin - about my difficult times. Aydin, please are there any children you need to worry about with your wife who you are divorcing. Are you divorced already? I ask about children as that is important to know. Did you have children with her? Does she have children already?

  • Daniel

    Oh that was good she did not have any children with you. So she only came to you for a visa so she can have her life away from Russia.

  • Aydin

    she was from Kiev Ukraine not Russia but she always said she doesn’t like Ukraine and she count her self Russian

  • Daniel

    Is she young and beautiful? Maybe I should meet her. Young, beautiful, Ukraine, no children is perfect. Aydin, are you old or young? Was she much younger than you?

  • Aydin

    if you want i tell you where she lives but she will eat you alive she is like a snake she did all this to me and she would do other bad things to others she is nonhuman she is very pretty Ukraine and I’m 35 not that old and she was 28 OK age.

  • Daniel

    Most Ukrainian women have children by the age of 28. I am surprised she has no children. My Ukraine wife had two children already. Was she married before or were you the first husband?

  • Aydin

    no she was not married she said she was single because her father was very difficult person he didn’t let her meet anyone or dress short like other Ukrainian woman and then he passed away 3 months later me and her met she said she was a virgin and I’m the first man she been with. after what she did to me i don’t know if anything she is saying is true

  • Daniel

    Aydin, I understand what you say. If someone lies or cheats you, then you think all must have been lies and cheats. Maybe it was just a communication thing. Was her English good or was she just learning.

    When I first met my wife it was only letters. Even though my wife had good English, she would not even talk on the phone with me. She worried she will make a mistake.

  • Aydin

    no her English was not perfect but it was good about 7 out of 10

  • Daniel

    Ok, I can see what the problem was. And I can help you in the future.

    In your long detail of your story you mentioned her son who was trying to avoid the Russian Army. Now, I am thinking maybe she was not a virgin when you met her. And I am thinking maybe she is not mentally stable. As since she is from Kiev, but she has fear of the Russian Army taking her boy.

    Now I guess it is possible she was a virgin, but the boy is not hers. I mean if the boy is 17 or so, that means she had the boy when she was 11 years old. Now that is possible, but not likely.

    So, I am thinking someone in Kiev paid her to take the boy from Ukraine. I mean you dont really know anything do you. The fact that she calls herself Russian and is afraid the Russian army will take her boy… well maybe she and he ARE Russian.

    Now, there is another possiblity, I think. Maybe she is not 28. Maybe she is like 40. But she has a great body. You know that Russian women are amazing.

    Now, in your first letter you mentioned her perfect English. But when she came to you her English was only 7 out of 10.

    Now I am thinking perhaps when you talked on the phone with her, it was her son, using a female voice with perfect English to fool you, to get to UK.

    But then my thinking is really completely crazy. Let us say she is a virgin and she is 28. That means that the son was born, somehow, like the Virgin Birth of Jesus. Now, let us say God came to your wife - before she was your wife. He (God) may have said ‘you will give birth to a Russian child who will be able to speak perfect English in a womans voice when he wants’.

    Now, that links everyhing together. But the problem I have with this is why would God have your wife have virgin birth to an English speaking Russian boy in Kiev. The problem I have is this boy would not LIE on the phone to you. God would not allow that - if the boy was like a brother to Jesus Christ.

    So, I am thinking what has happened is this: the devil came to your wife to have a virgin birth of this English speaking, Russian ANTI CHRIST! It is the only conclusion that makes sense.

    Now, why the ANTI CHRIST would try to avoid the Russian army I dont understand. And why, Aydin, the ANTI CHRIST and his virgin mother would choose you to move to the UK is very strange.

    Can you think why they would choose you. That is the part I cannot understand.

  • Aydin

    its not her son this is her sister son and she brought him with her and she call him her son i was telling you everything how it happened based on what she calls him

  • Aydin

    i don’t know why she choose me and i wish she have not and i have not if i know she was not a good woman i would have never get near her.

  • Aydin

    there was one things on the phone she sounded different and when she came to the UK she told me it was a could that’s why she sounded different back then according to her.

  • Daniel

    Aydin, it is easy then. When you have a similar scenario… I mean the strange series of facts, you just say ‘NO’ and you run away.

    It is good luck for you, that the court will not put you in jail. That is the best of this!

  • Sherlock Holmes

    haha, touche’ Daniel. ::tips hat, smokes pipe and adjusts monocle::

  • Aydin

    sorry typo mistake

    there was one thing on the phone she sounded different and when she came to the UK she told me it was a cold she had that’s why she sounded different back then according to her. it was kind of a hint something was off

  • Aydin

    i didn’t know she was not good woman she was telling everything i need to hear and she was very good actor

  • Daniel

    Actually, Aydin, she must have been a GREAT actor. Because it is not possible, I guess, for her cold to allow her to speak perfect English. But she comes to the UK and she cannot speak perfect… unless she is acting.

    So, we really have two possibilities

    the son is the English speaking, Russian Anti Christ, of the Virgin from Ukraine who needs to get to the UK to avoid the Russian army in Kiev

    or

    the son is indeed the son of the sister of the Ukraine wife who thinks she is from Russia; and this Ukraine wife can speak perfect English when she has a cold - or this Ukraine wife is an actor so devious that for over 2 years she can speak not perfect English (why she would do that, we dont know)

    Actually, Aydin, when I read all your writing and compare them there is actually a THIRD possibility. Can you think what it may be?

  • Daniel

    And now you all know why my Zhenya hates me. I call bullshit as bullshit. Even if my wife speaks it. I really do like truth. I hate lies.

  • Aydin

    what is the THIRD possibility

  • Aydin

    why your Zhenya hates you did you do something?

  • Jester

    Haha, the third possibility is: Aydin is full of shit. Someone was cut & pasting some hard-luck Russian woman stories and getting carried away. Interesting read :-)

  • Ornella

    Aydin=Andrey

  • The Real Oksana

    Wow!!! “I” was talking about blowjobs in public! How broadminded or me!

  • Aydin

    who is andrei jester is he your boyfriend this is forum is man who are with woman not man. you seem full of shit this is my true story what past cut.

  • Electra

    Andrew must be Jester’s boyfriend

  • Aydin

    what is andri or andrew you all been talking about

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