Estonia Plans New Graves To Ease Tensions
Estonians are still firmly maintaining that the centre of Tallinn is no place for war graves.
‘But here in Iraq, well, there’s plenty of space for graves’, said an Estonian military spokesman. ‘With our help, since the occupation of Iraq, over 650,000 new graves have been created’.
‘The Soviet occupation was a terrible thing to happen to Estonia. But, done right, brutal occupations can really work.’
By a huge majority, Estonia’s parliamentarians approved the decision to extend the occupation of Iraq with 70 votes for and just three against in the 101 member legislature, deputy speaker Maret Maripuu said.
Estonian commanders admit that there are still as many riots in Baghdad as there are in Tallinn. ‘But you can see that these are just Russian drunks and thugs causing trouble. We’ve identified these hooligans from police CCTV footage’.
‘One of the problems of occupying Iraq is that many Iraqis were born here and they seem to think they have rights. Where do people get these kind of notions? Surely they must realise that any resistance to Estonian gravedigging is an attack on the whole EU.’
Later in the year, a crack division of the Language Directorate SS will be sent out to teach Iraqis to speak Estonian. However, the UN reports that over 3,000 Iraqis a week are fleeing the occupation, so not all Iraqis will be lucky enough to complete their language courses.
Is this supposed to be funny???
It’s a comment on Estonia’s double standards. There is an element of black satire, yes.
Dear copydude, Maybe you missed my question in another thread.
I would like to hear about minorities in Russia? Why don’t you talk about them, for example brutal killings by Russians in Chechnya? About the fact that in Russia many people who criticize Putin have been killed or jailed? At the moment it is clear that Russia is using this monument in order to distract Europe and World, so they wouldn’t notice what dictator Putin in doing.
Ave writes:
“I would like to hear about minorities in Russia?”
Granted, it might make you feel better. Why not talk about minorities in Rwanda as well? Or in Zimbabwe?
It still won’t excuse the fact that Estonia has the worst human rights record in the EU and that is the context of all my threads here.
Maybe you should check some news… Yesyetrday it was published that cenzorship in Russia is higher than in any other country in Europe. You still didn’t answer what do you think about Russians killing people in Chechnya for more than 100 years now? Russians and fascists not Estonians. Someone from EU said that Russians are egoists who cannot understand that when someone says “Stop! You aren’t the only ones on this planet” and start calling them racists or whatever.
Fact is that Russia is governed by a dictator…. Deaths of Polikovskaya and Litvinenko…everyone knows they are connected to Kremlin! Please…. deal with your problems at home, before you start complaining about something that doesn’t exist and that isn’t a problem!
Yesterday*
ARe not and*
I don’t want to be offensive, but I am just saying my opinion. I know that you probably don’t have proper information so it is ok to think in a way you do. Anyway, EU and NATO support Estonia in that and these unite democratic republics…and for the past years Russia has been far from democracy.
It still won’t excuse the fact that Estonia has the worst human rights record in the EU… huh? Source, please, and try to find one not shot through with propaganda.
It is unbelievably vile of you to paint a country with deep and historic respect for human rights as having a poor record — Estonia was the first country in the world to grant cultural autonomy to its Jewish community, for example.
The policies the Baltic states pursued before they were ivaded by Russians were at the forefront of multiculturalism. Those policies are still pretty much in place — they just require people to behave with some degree of civility. It is quite difficult to absorb large numbers of colonists, many of whom look to the imperial power that sent them into Estonia.
Is this supposed to be funny???
I do not know if it is supposed to be- but I am LMAO =)
Regarding comments from your correspondents from the Baltic states - as Russian proverb says:
‘The cat knows, whose meat it ate!’
(Знает кошка, чьё мÑÑо Ñъела!)
those who can’t read or were not taught how to read maybe should go back to school. or estonians don’t learn how to read in school. i wonder. estonia is a part of EU or on other words EUROPEAN UNION which has its own standards. unfortunatelly those standards are being double standards because what estonia is doing is against EU standards but since it acts against russians nobody actually give a damn. the key word is EU, so once more estonia is a part of EU and should act according to its standards (laws etc). and the fact remains that of all member countries of EU, estonia has the worst human rights record.
russia has far far far worst record about human rights than estonia. absolutely true. they don’t recognize some of the minorities and do everything to silence them out. nobody denies that. still, russia is not a part of EUROPEAN UNION and does not have to apply laws which are basics for EUROPEAN UNION. after all, russia don’t have to answer to brussels (bruxelles) while estonia has to.
the point here, for those who haven’t understood it by now, is that to be a part of EUROPEAN UNION include implicitly respecting human rights (that includes minority right). again, we’re talking here about estonia as a part of EU.
“and the fact remains that of all member countries of EU, estonia has the worst human rights record.” Give me a proof! Some independent research! ( Kremlin and Russian reaserches don’t count, because as you said human rights in Russia are far worse)
There are 10 times worse situations in Spain with people of Bask race ( I am sorry if it isn’t written like that!), situation in UK with muslims. I have done many reaserach projects about this and at the moment official EU documents say that the main problem with human rights, integration and discrimination is in France and UK with muslim communities! No-one (EU, UN) has even mentioned Russians is Estonia! Sure integration hasn’t gone as well as it could have gone, but their situation is very good compared to other countries in Europe!
Estonians have been really patient, but we are expecting Russians to do something too! They need to understand that it isn’t Soviet union anymore and they need to be loyal to estonia and its culture not to Moscow. If they feel that they support and like Kremlin better, they can move to Russia. Russia is big and there is enough space for everyone!
There are about 120 million Russians in the world and about 1 million Estonians. Russia is the biggest country in the world and why cannot Estonians have a country for themselves, where they can speak their language. I have many Russian friends and they all like living in Estonia. I try to speak with them in Russian and they speak with me in Estonian. Together we can learn each others language, but after these riots I have talked with them if they really feel as being treated bad and they said that they like living in Estonia, they speak Estonian and feel like Estonians though their native language is Russian. Unfortunately, only Russian extremists have a voice in Estonia and therefore people who don’t live in Estonia feel that someone is discriminated! If this were happening, Estonia woyuldn’t have been accepted in EU! For the past years there have been so many EU controls here and this gives us more credibility! Democracies believe that in Estonia is everything ok, while Russia is moving towards dictatorship.
There you go, Ave:
Amnesty International has repeatedly highlighted to the Estonian authorities the fact that many persons belonging to linguistic minorities are afraid of and feel harassed by the Language Inspectorate, and that the repressive and punitive nature of the Language Inspectorate prevents the realization of human rights for all in Estonia.
and more:
Linguistic minorities in Estonia:
Discrimination must end
I am happy that Estonia is independent. I can see that the future is brighter for kids here than it is in Russia or would have been in the Soviet Union. But I am sad for myself. I used to be an engineer, now I am considered a useless Russian who does not speak Estonian and does not contribute to society.
Dmitri, a stateless man in his 50s from the Russian-speaking linguistic minority
Unless you considering Amnesty International a pro-Kremlin organisation of course.
What about what “the russians did to the chechens’??? It was never Russia v. the Chechens, but that is how the western media has portrayed it.
Chechnya, under Dudayev (former commander of a nuclear bomber squadron in estonia(?)) and tartarstan both pushed for independence. Tartarstan did a deal with the kremlin (that has recently been reopened (more or less)).
The Chechen duma wanted to do a deal with the kremlin, but Dudayev ‘knew better’ and dissolved the parliament and took personal control.
The 1st “russian invasion” was combined of chechen (i.e. those who were against dudayev) and russian forces. Large numbers of russian civilians died there too. And guess what else, Ruslan Khasbulatov (also a chechen and whos parents were also deported to Khazakhstan like Dudayevs’ by Stalin) was the speaker of the supreme soviet and then the duma in the Kremlin and was also against Dudayev.
Still, some people are too happy to stick with simple explinations….